OK to be honest, the 1st pair of Merrell shoes I bought were the Refuge Core, and found them to be an outstanding all around shoe from the time I put them on at REI in Denver. I purchased this product for work (where I am on my feet most of the day) & play (my wife and I are recreational campers & I am a lsa pilot); only to discover they were absolutely wonderful for all situations. Upon finding that the Refuge was no longer avialable, I purchased the Phonenix Trek with quite a bit of hesistation only to be very satisfied that they are equal if not better than the Refuge! I am an older fellow and have gained a "few" pounds over the years, and I highy praise the Phoenix Trek for comfort........Simply a quality product....I found the Wide Width to be the key for myself!!!!