I purchased this style shoe from a retail store that specializes in outdoor sports from the clearance shoe table. With the proper socks they are a good fit, but I had to go with a half size larger as the toe style was short. Walking in the store they were comfortable, but I could tell the arch support was soft. I have a high instep, so when I arrived home, pulled out the flimsy liner, and inserted my custom orthopedic liner. Much better support for street walking, and standing for long periods. Since this is a moccasin style it is more relaxed fit, so do not expect it to perform like a hiking shoe/boot. It will go nicely with khakis, or hiking slacks for casual walking which was my intention.